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2014/01/09 09:14:47 (permalink)
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Another fall from a balcony

Wow, another tourist falls from a balcony![:@]

http://globalnews.ca/video/1070794/mexican-getaway-ends-in-health-care-nightmare

This one at the Grand Sirenis and they want them to pay for the balcony!!!!! That's the part that really got me.

I've never been to the GS or to the Oasis Tulum where the other balcony fall happened and I love the area but I think I will start testing the balconies of the places I stay.



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RE: Another fall from a balcony 2014/01/09 09:22:13 (permalink)
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everything in mexico needs fixing

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RE: Another fall from a balcony 2014/01/09 10:27:08 (permalink)
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I certainly would avoid that hotel after the way she was treated. [:@] RD
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RE: Another fall from a balcony 2014/01/09 12:12:17 (permalink)
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I just had an FB exchange with another friend and she knows this girl.

She said that another girl was raped, someone else complained of being stalked by the staff and this isn't the only accident with balconies that they've had there.
I would say this is one resort to be avoided for a bit until they get control of whatever is happening there.



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RE: Another fall from a balcony 2014/01/09 12:32:16 (permalink)
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Inexcusable.

I know Mexico gets a pass on a lot of things because it is Mexico, but there is absolutely no excuse for a rich money making AI not making it safe and then not stepping up when people are hurt on their property due to their negligence.

And the whole thing about the difficulty getting care if you do not have a credit card on you and the difficulty obtaining need narcotic pain relievers really are torture to people at their most vulnerable moments.

I love Mexico, but in this day and age I find this kind of thing inexcusable and it makes me livid.
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RE: Another fall from a balcony 2014/01/09 12:42:39 (permalink)
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This seems a case of lack of building codes or enforcement. I have seen way too much of it, and am always having to correct it. Someone thinks they have something attached well enough and derides the engineers for wanting more, that's plenty strong, they say. Only it's about half attached as it ought to be, which weakens it to about one fourth. Add in wind stress, corrosive atmospheres degrading fasteners and substrates... well.... add in also vacationers relaxing, and previous ones maybe hanging on the rails, etc.... Just no safety margin and less than they ought to be building standards....

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RE: Another fall from a balcony 2014/01/09 13:05:51 (permalink)
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I think this may have been another glass type railing, like the one that gave way at Oasis Tulum.
I think that they don't understand how to properly attach them.

And I don't understand how any establishment can expect you to pay for something that almost killed you!!! That would be a sticking point for me, I would be sitting in their lobby very loudly refusing to pay for a damn thing. They could keep my swim suits and summer dresses. I would leave with out paying for anything.



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RE: Another fall from a balcony 2014/01/09 13:19:33 (permalink)
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We stayed at the Sirenis last April and they are Glass balcony rails , I would really like to hear the full story on what happened in this incident .
I am not championing for the resort by any means ,but 6 of us went and none of us had any issue whatsoever the entire trip , other than having a dinner reservation mix up.
post edited by 8man - 2014/01/09 13:21:41
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RE: Another fall from a balcony 2014/01/09 18:05:44 (permalink)
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I did check the balconies where we were down there, I also made sure I did not lean on it. Even ours did have a few cracks on the end where the end post went into the concrete.

The resort where we were was putting new metal railings in to repalce the wooden ones.
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RE: Another fall from a balcony 2014/01/13 13:03:37 (permalink)
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I always check the balcony and try not to lean on it.
A few years ago, our travel company would not let ABR put us above the bottom floor because they deemed their balconies to be unsafe.......

 



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RE: Another fall from a balcony 2014/01/13 17:09:25 (permalink)
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Did they say why they deemed the balcony rails unsafe? I do know that they do not meet US codes of 4" maximum between them, barely meet the 36" high rule and just plain don't meet the 42" high code if above a certain height (I think 6 feet).

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RE: Another fall from a balcony 2014/01/15 14:46:59 (permalink)
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We were at the Royal Solaris in Cancun back in 2002 and some guy fell off the 7th floor balcony and landed (dead of course) on our friends 1st floor balcony. My friends went out to have coffee on the balcony in the morning and found him. His girlfriend was still in the room he fell from passed out drunk. She didn't even know he was gone.[:o]

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RE: Another fall from a balcony 2014/01/15 15:05:31 (permalink)
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I suspected something fishy when I first heard this story. The couple seem sketchy to me. They had also claimed that her engagment ring was stolen, but why would it not be a) on her finger, or b) in the safe?? Here is the latest from the hotel. According to whom, this couple were fighting and it had nothing to do with the balcony or glass giving way due shoddy construction. Here's a link


http://globalnews.ca/news/1084240/mexican-resort-denies-responsibility-for-canadian-womans-balcony-collapse/




 
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RE: Another fall from a balcony 2014/01/16 05:57:58 (permalink)
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It's always good to hear the other side of the story. Seems a pretty good fight was taking place.

Still...... for a man and a woman in combat to actually break one of those glass railings loose, I've installed these before, and dare I say a rib would be breaking long before a properly installed glass rail would let go. It may "meet all building codes" for that area with questionable standards and enforcement, but again, "We're not in Kansas anymore".

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RE: Another fall from a balcony 2014/01/16 07:13:45 (permalink)
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I can only rely on my own personal experience and that is that I have experienced many questionable (safety/maintenance wise) balconies in Mexico that would never be allowed in the US. Sober or drunk they can be an issue.

People need to be careful and not rely on others to be cautious for them. However, I do not think the hotels should be given a pass either. A minimum safety level should be required of any business. Kids are not going to check it for safety. Anyone can lean on one without checking it. Alcohol or no alcohol.

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RE: Another fall from a balcony 2014/01/16 07:37:37 (permalink)
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The plot thickens..............

Gracias, Seagoat! That was interesting.


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RE: Another fall from a balcony 2014/01/16 09:43:13 (permalink)
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ORIGINAL: Tomas

The plot thickens..............

Gracias, Seagoat! That was interesting.


It was with some relish that I came across that story. A coworker sent me the original one to me with the subject line Riviera Maya and I disputed it at the time, as it just didn't sit well. I passed the updated story to same coworker and his response....silence. LOL Don't clutter the ant--Mexico issue with facts eh? [:D][;)]

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RE: Another fall from a balcony 2014/01/16 12:12:12 (permalink)
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We were at CRT May 2012 and the folks next to us had a knockdown drag out fight going on for an hour or more at 2am. Lots of screaming and cussing, throwing stuff etc. I was sleeping thru it and the DW woke me up.
Called the front desk and let them know. They took care of it within 15 minutes.
Sometimes Paradise is not so nice.

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RE: Another fall from a balcony 2014/01/16 13:16:01 (permalink)
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I was sleeping thru it and the DW woke me up.


This sounds like a problem to me.......................[:D]


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RE: Another fall from a balcony 2014/01/16 16:55:26 (permalink)
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We stayed there on the third floor. The balcony picture in the article shows the railing intact. So how do fall " under" the railing? And the balconies were taller than any other AI I have been at - as tall as mine at home. Even if the glass panel gave way because you kicked it out or something the metal railing was still in place . I can't quite see how this happened without a lot of help. And believe me...I thoroughly tested the railing after an LG get together for Halloween at LBV !
Of all the places we have stayed the staff there were the very best and I wouldn't hesitate to go back. And who sneaks an injured person back to the room instead of screaming for help???? A guilty person maybe???

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RE: Another fall from a balcony 2014/01/17 05:29:16 (permalink)
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I just looked at the picture in the article again. That rail is certainly gone with the glass. That is yellow caution tape strung across where the rail should be.

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RE: Another fall from a balcony 2014/01/17 06:20:55 (permalink)
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Well that makes more sense! Our next stay in Mexico we are booked into a ground floor condo. Tequila and balconies are a bad mix.

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RE: Another fall from a balcony 2014/01/17 07:28:22 (permalink)
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ORIGINAL: fidget

Well that makes more sense! Our next stay in Mexico we are booked into a ground floor condo. Tequila and balconies are a bad mix.

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RE: Another fall from a balcony 2014/01/17 14:28:05 (permalink)
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Hard to believe that if the person you're with falls off a balcony and is on the ground, unconscious, and obviously hurt, that you don't start yelling and screaming for help no matter what time of the day or night it is. If by some unbelievable chance nobody hears you, wouldn't running to the nearest phone and calling the front desk be the thing you'd do? A fall, broken collar bone, all those stitches on her back... really, she just got up and off they sauntered back to their room so she could lie down and what, feel better in the morning?

Only 2 people really know what happened, but the story doesn't add up. If they were drunk and/or fighting and their actions broke the balcony then I can see the hotel trying to get the repair cost from them. If you trash a hotel room anywhere, you're charged for damages. Why should a resort in Mexico be any different?

It's good she wasn't more seriously hurt, or killed.
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RE: Another fall from a balcony 2014/01/17 19:05:06 (permalink)
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Ya know for some reason I have thought a lot about this one. Even if these 2 lovebirds were fighting up a storm and it got physical...and lets say he pushed her against the balcony...I can understand the glass breaking, but that one picture shows the railing is gone. No matter how wild things got there is no way that railing should have failed.

Second, I would think if there were violence involved that would be an excellent reason for him to pick her up and take her back to the room as opposed to calling for help. Getting arrested for domestic violence and spending time in a mexican jail was probably not top on his list.

Third-I know the system in Mexico for hospital visits and even the docotrs who come to your hotel room is not great cause they usually want cash up front. But if you are going to travel in a foreign country--these are the type of things you should know if you are outside of your own country.
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