Privatizing Akumal Bay?

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RE: Privatizing Akumal Bay? The Pirates? 2013/09/03 14:57:32 (permalink)
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You're good to go as usual Gerber. It's just that a lot of the uninitiated visiting Akumal may not know that.

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RE: Privatizing Akumal Bay? The Pirates? 2013/09/03 17:30:01 (permalink)
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All those condo owners on HMB better get interested in how this shakes out because access to Akumal Bay
is a critical part of what rents out their condos! HMB is cool by itself, but without easy Akumal access those condos are less valuable,
at least to me!


As a homeowner in Akumal, I can say not only are we "interested," but we are happy to be involved to find a reasonable and rational solution that works for the greater good of all concerned -- locals, condo-home owners, businesses, tourists and most importantly the health of the bays which makes all this possible. Thanks ...

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Re: RE: Privatizing Akumal Bay? The Pirates? 2015/12/19 17:15:36 (permalink)
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I am hearing via the Internet that this is boiling over at the moment.   A blockade is in place and cars can't get into or out of Half Moon Bay.   Hard to separate fact from rumor on the internet.   Hopefully someone in Akumal can tell us what's going on.

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Re: RE: Privatizing Akumal Bay? The Pirates? 2015/12/19 21:14:01 (permalink)
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From CEA yesterday (on Facebook) so I guess that's a pretty good indication of what's going on.
 
Beach Access Information

Centro Ecologico Akumal (CEA)·Friday, December 18, 2015



We would like to share this update from Centro Ukana I Akumal, A.C.
 
At the beginning of 2015, Centro Ukana I Akumal A.C., owner of the property that has provided access to the beach through it since its formation, presented a complete plan to ensure the safe passage of pedestrians through the property to the beach. This plan was sent to the representative of the town of Akumal and to all levels of government including the President of Mexico.
 
We requested a dialogue to handle the reorganization of the access openly with the town of Akumal and all the cooperatives and commercial tour operators of Swim with the Turtle Tours. This never came. We approached the individual groups of cooperatives separately with no results.
 
This week, with the high season around the corner, the property management of Centro Ukana I Akumal A.C. went ahead with this plan to provide a safer and more organized entry through the property to the beach. The property made an official announcement that the beach is open. Everyone can continue to transit through the property, with the change in access being a mere 50 meters to the north, with safe access that does not endanger pedestrians mixing in with the vehicular traffic coming in and out of Akumal.
 
This was met with total resistance on the part of the commercial interests from the town of Akumal. They decided to close off the only entrance to Akumal, prohibiting any vehicular traffic to go in or out of Akumal. At one point, even foot traffic was being restricted. There are guests with suitcases at the entrance not knowing what to do. There are guests inside needing to get to the airport with rental cars. All locals are being inconvenienced, there are property owners who cannot leave to get groceries, pick up friends at the airport, go to the doctor, or come in for holiday parties already scheduled. Everyone is affected and there is no reason for this to happen and no reason for this to be allowed by the Mexican government.
 
Here is a video of how easy and accessible it is to get to the beach through the entrance beside the Dive Shop.
 
We invite everyone to come and enjoy the beach. There is no entrance fee to the beach. The only change is that you enter through the new access point. Our recommendation is not to walk under the archway with the traffic coming and going. We suggest coming in through the Plaza Ukana and cross the road where there is an established pedestrian walkway.
 
We hope that the Mexican Government understand how much this situation is affecting Akumal each hour they allow this to continue.

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Re: RE: Privatizing Akumal Bay? The Pirates? 2015/12/20 07:15:47 (permalink)
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We arrived on Friday the 18th and after some negotiations by our property manager they did let our transfer in. A BIG thanks to both of them!!!I’m not going to name names or properties until this is all over, I would not want to cause any problems for them in any way.
 Our manager stopped by late yesterday after all the manager and protester had a meeting, he let us know that the protesters would now let us come and go as long as we had a letter from him saying we are staying in a condo on HMB.
 We also has a suitcase (1 of 2) that was lost by the air line, they tried to deliver it Friday night but were turned away. Our property manager was great on this one too. We spent yesterday morning trying to figure out how we were going to get our suitcase in the rain but after their meeting yesterday he was able to add them to the list of cars that will be allowed in. When we got back from diner last night it was in our room.
   We planned on eating at LBV Friday night but when we got there at 7:30 the rope was across the steps closing down and they were closed all day yesterday.
 There is a big new steal fence up with new gates where the rock pill was last time with an armed guard.
We are still having a great time and the sun is out this morning!!!!

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Re: RE: Privatizing Akumal Bay? 2015/12/20 12:50:39 (permalink)
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The road into town is open

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Re: RE: Privatizing Akumal Bay? 2015/12/20 13:21:03 (permalink)
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The road was closed for a little more than 72 hours.   Local media appears to be conflating the issue (probably with the protestors help) - this is NOT People of Akumal vs CEA, it's Snorkel Tours vs CEA.
 
Leisure use of Akumal Bay should be unaffected (if CEA is true to its word), we'll have to see what happens to commercial use now that this event is over.

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Re: RE: Privatizing Akumal Bay? 2015/12/20 14:25:45 (permalink)
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Thanks for the update Kay
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Re: RE: Privatizing Akumal Bay? 2015/12/20 19:10:57 (permalink)
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Last Thursday morning, we were attempting to drive our rental car out of Akumal to get out on the highway and on to the Cancun airport to catch our flight home.  The road was blocked between the highway and the entrance to Akumal.  Protestors had strewn logs, branches, wires, trash, etc., across the small, two way road which was completely blocked and surrounded on both sides by many protesting local residents and local business people.  Bob Marley tunes were playing loudly.  What to do?  Since we had stayed at The Reef, Helmie (manager) came down and found three local guys to carry our luggage over the mess of branches, etc., and secured us a taxi.  My husband went to Bart at Turtle Bay and said, "You're doing me a favor," and arranged for EasyWay car rental to come to Turtle Bay to get the key for our car which we parked in the lot there.  Walking through the protest was extremely uncomfortable, even though locals were helping us.  We got in our cab and drove to EasyWay to discuss the car situation.  EasyWay refused to charge us a penny more for any inconvenience and would retrieve the car.  Jesus and Jose Maria were wonderful.  Besides that, we had gotten an awesome deal on a great car.  The cab driver got us to the airport in time to catch our fight.  I do believe we got hosed on the cab fare, in retrospect. 
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Re: RE: Privatizing Akumal Bay? 2015/12/21 07:19:17 (permalink)
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Wow.  More of an adventure than you were looking for.  Sounds like they are making arrangements now so that won't happen again.
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Re: RE: Privatizing Akumal Bay? 2015/12/22 14:15:14 (permalink)
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Today on sipse dot com
 
http://sipse.com/novedades/acceso-bahia-de-akumal-playa-costa-cea-conflicto-tulum-centro-ecologico-akumal-183998.html
 
Key takeaway ...
 
La población tiene garantizado el acceso por el camino principal, sin restricciones, dijo el funcionario, y ese es un  acuerdo firmado por el delegado Abraham Rejón, sostuvo.
 
I believe that is Spanish for the protesters agreeing they won't block the road into Half Moon Bay again.   Huge relief as this disagreement is far from been resolved.

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Re: RE: Privatizing Akumal Bay? 2015/12/24 19:07:35 (permalink)
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This is from Polemica. You will need google translate or equivalent       http://www.semanariopolemica.com/?p=6647  .
This is the other side of the story You will have to make your own conclusion of whats going on but this sounds more lagit.
http://akumalbayinfo.com/?page_id=26
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Re: RE: Privatizing Akumal Bay? 2015/12/26 09:49:37 (permalink)
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Who is running that site akumalbayinfo?  Just curious, I could not find who owns the domain. 

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Re: RE: Privatizing Akumal Bay? 2015/12/26 13:06:47 (permalink)
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Hello Kay. The akumalbayinfo  was a link from Friends of Akumal Bay on Facebook. t was shared from Akumal, you gotta love it also on Facebook
 
post edited by Mellow52 - 2015/12/26 13:12:19
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Re: RE: Privatizing Akumal Bay? 2015/12/28 09:57:07 (permalink)
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I believe it is owned by an old LG member.  Can't recall his name... now but was on quite a bit here for quite some time.  
 

 
 
 
 






 
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Re: RE: Privatizing Akumal Bay? 2016/01/08 08:10:43 (permalink)
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I see on the CEA website they want "Locals Only" on the path that starts just past the arch and goes down to the beach.  Everybody else has to go though near the CEA building.
 
Not sure how this "locals only" is going to be enforced/determined.   I guess if you are fair skinned and speak English, you are not a local?   Sounds like the old South Africa in reverse.  Or will they have a booth set up with a guy checking id?    Not sure which is better?!?

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Re: RE: Privatizing Akumal Bay? 2016/02/09 07:53:33 (permalink)
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any update on this? can we only access the beach via the path beside the dive shop?
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Re: RE: Privatizing Akumal Bay? 2016/02/09 10:40:11 (permalink)
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any update on this? can we only access the beach via the path beside the dive shop?
gracias


You can access the beach at this time from the main path by the statue.  

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Re: RE: Privatizing Akumal Bay? 2016/02/22 01:48:46 (permalink)
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Akumal, Tulum, 16 February.
Against tolerance of municipal and state authorities, a small group of providers of nautical services living in the town of Akumal, led by Melchor Gamboa Gamboa, ex delegado and deputy mayor for the period 2011-2013 who led Edith Mendoza Pino, blocked the road leading to the tourist resort of Akumal, preventing the passage to all vehicles, causing huge losses to the service providers, and harming the tourist image of Quintana Roo, violent action carried out by second day, using the false argument that no longer use the access of Ecological Center Akumal (CEA) to get to the bay, where they do not want is to work in order, together with it's private property, because the PDUA 2007 2032 not established as a window to the sea.
Like two months ago when they blocked for four days the same road, the only way to reach the coast of Akumal, both the Secretary General of the City of Tulum, Gilberto de los Angeles Gomez Mora as Secretary General State Government Gabriel Mendicuti Loría not take action to release the important means of communication, although around 4,000 tourists stopped enter the tourist area, leaving a negative image of Quintana Roo, an organization that has a great importance in the "industry without smokestacks" to receive half of the 32 million foreign visitors who came to Mexico in 2015 and generate revenue in the order of 8 billion dollars.
After Monday a minimum group of residents of Akumal destroyed the fence on the path leading to Akumal Bay and tore down the statue of Gonzalo Guerrero. On Tuesday more acute the problem, given the lack of municipal authorities and state by giving a solution to the conflict.
It was around 09:00 am Tuesday when again retook the action taken on Monday, this time closing the passage of the state road leading from the highway to the tourist resort of Akumal, action was brief and then they moved to the municipal head with the intention to talk to the mayor related to the problem, which at that time was in a public event that was made in the dome of the park "Dos Aguas" were not being served by the mayor.
Failing to achieve his goal briefly blocked the road in front of the municipal section of the town hall in the rain and having no answer returned Akumal; around 11:00 hours permanently they closed access by placing two barricades on the stretch of about 100 meters.
One of these two closures are recorded only 50 meters to reach the arch but seeing that tourists had entered the bay engage in recreational activities, they were forced to pass through a space that was between two parking lots, chose to place around 13:30 hours, another block near the rise of vehicular bridge, preventing access to all types of vehicles, acts carried out in the presence of the municipal police, who just simply look at the facts without intervening.
Actions that have been taking place for quite some time, before the lack of municipal and state authorities for giving a solution to the conflict of the road leading to the bay.
It is in the month of December when reached an agreement with the municipal authorities entrepreneurs give free passage, despite being a private property only for the people of Akumal, and conducting business had an alternate path, actions that were not met.
So the gate was closed on Monday, then it was demolished. On Tuesday were placed two fences by the owners to ensure security and guards be protected.
Blocking the access road to the hotel zone, which until press time continued, has caused severe damages to the residents and the tourism sector, damaging the image of the destination as there are complaints from residents and tourists, while leaving losses in the millions, entrepreneurs indicated place, in carrying out these actions by a small group of settlers themselves who have become everyday the refusal.
 
http://www.poresto.net/ve...=6&idTitulo=460692
 
 
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Re: RE: Privatizing Akumal Bay? 2016/02/23 16:48:26 (permalink)
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PARADISE IN DANGER By Romana Mora, Manuel Chuc y Gerardo Reynoso
 
Akumal, the heart of the Riviera Maya, is about to stop beating. It is a place that is beautiful, amazing and a true reflection of the nature that adorns Quintana Roo. It is a memorable place in the tourist history of the state. And before long, it could also be one more statistic of a destination that has collapsed and been destroyed by abuse, excess and exploitation caused by the lack of regulations and control.
 
 
For many this story is not new. It happened to places in Cancun, Playa del Carmen and Tulum where lack of environmental standards combined with the greed of groups outside Akumal, produce damage which very soon could be irreversible. This situation is easily palpable. Over-exploitation of Akumal Bay as a tourist attraction has seriously threatened the habitats of the loggerhead and green sea turtle species that live there. Every day more than 4000 people come to Akumal to be part of a unique and incredible experience. Simply by entering the bay, 20 meters into the sea you can see the turtles in their natural habitat feeding on seagrass. For turtles and other marine species that can be seen in Akumal Bay—stingrays, squid, barracudas and a variety of reef fish—the human impact has gone on unchecked. The latter is what creates the greatest risk and the problem because preventive measures have not been taken to avoid overloading the bay with people. "It's not about having no people come or for them to pay to enter, but that they are aware and be conscious of the need to protect this paradise" said Azael, a guide for POR ESTO, "in a simply wonderful journey."
 
Without control, nature is at risk To understand the greatness of Akumal, you need to go back in time. The "place of turtles" was the first big tourist destination in Quintana Roo as it emerged with activities focused on tourism since 1958. From that year to date, millions of tourists who want to swim with the turtles in their natural habitat come to Akumal each day. According to official data from the Department of Oceanology of the Autonomous University of Mexico, UNAM, in recent years the overload of the bay is considerably high. For example, from 2000 to 2010 visitors to Akumal on a daily basis ranged between 500 and one thousand. From 2011 and 2013 the figure rose to 2,500, and from 2013 to date there are more than 4000 people in the area of the bay and the reef on a daily basis. Referring to this point, Centro Ecológico Akumal, CEA, warned that the massive arrival of tourists who do snorkelling and diving tours to see the underwater wildlife, without effective surveillance, has put the ecosystem in a critical situation with consequences of irreversible damage. A clear example of this is the decline in the turtle population, which in 2014 was at 48, while in 2015 it dropped to 23. In addition, some turtles have tumours on their fins and shells, caused or influenced by humans. This is because the first 200 meters of the bay is no more than three meters deep. This causes a person who is not ready or is not guided by specialists, or who is tired and cannot tread water, to lower their feet which could result in coming in contact with a turtle and transferring bacteria.
 
"The most important rule when snorkeling is to always, no matter what happens, stay horizontal and not to lower your feet. This is not only for the turtles but also for the reef and the corals that are high and some are only half a meter away from the sea surface. Corals cannot be touched, however many people do and that also causes harm," explains Azael, the guide for POR ESTO, who is a native of Akumal and shows concern for great natural beauty of the environment. Tourists swimming in the bay are brought from other parts of the Riviera Maya and even Cancun by those in the transfer industry/drivers and do not know the environmental laws or their significance whatsoever. The groups often enter without life jackets, which is very important because it keeps people afloat when they get tired along the way. The life jacket also helps preventing them from putting their feet down or standing on the seagrass or sand. In the absence of guides with knowledge of the process, they cross the buoy lines, go where they want and nature is affected. In addition to this, massive groups congregate around the turtles and are harassed and intimidated by humans and also put the turtles at risk. That risk is continuous, because the turtles are below eating and from time to time come up to the surface for air in the middle of tour groups fascinated by the experience. However, this experience has consequences that may be irreparable. Sea turtles, despite their wide geographical distribution, habits and biological characteristics are at all stages of development highly vulnerable to natural predation.
 
The path of discord, few resources and little progress of Akumal village
Last week the Centro Ecológico Akumal, CEA, closed one pathway entrance leading directly into the bay. The reason was to redirect commercial flow and also maintain control on how many people enter daily to the tourist area and swim with turtles. In retaliation, the Akumal Cooperatives blocked the main entrance to the tourist area and after two days, committing a variety of acts of vandalism and destruction, then lifted their blockade with the intention of pursuing the case legally since they argued that the entrance is public and not private property. At this point, the conflict appears to be over, but in reality it is not. It turns out that cooperatives are not only from Akumal but with the passage of time other groups from destinations like Playa del Carmen, Tulum and Puerto Aventuras, among others have joined them under very lucrative and profitable agreements. This situation has allowed for many people to have a secure cash flow provided them by a 45-minute tour in Akumal Bay without care or concern to environmental protection. The groups come, swim and go. In the span, some damage the ecosystem. Others do not. And this is reflected daily in Akumal and the townspeople know this and know it in detail.
In addition, the town of Akumal has not seen in years progress that in theory they should, given the natural wonder they have just across the road. The urban area still has significant deficiencies and no level of government has done anything to solve this situation. So the pathway is not important. The real fight in Akumal is the quick money, even if it is at nature’s expense...and nothing will ever be the same again.
 
The magic place of turtles will be lost It's 12 o'clock. More than 2,000 tourists are in the bay. Just 20 meters out, the first turtle is seen. The sun in the sea causes a turquoise glow whose main actor is a marine species that has long made Akumal home. Not far from there, a squid drifts close to the reef without reserve, and without a doubt it is a big wonder. It is about Akumal, the heart of the Riviera Maya. The place is known for the ease you have to swim with turtles in the bay. Swimming with turtles is something that can be experienced throughout the year. It is to have direct, amazing and priceless contact with nature. It is a natural aquarium and is located in Quintana Roo.
 
In the Mayan language Akumal means "Place of Turtles" and it is still one of the favorite spots for these marine animals to nest, but not only to nest as it is common to spend much of their life in the bay. It is a very picturesque destination where many can enjoy its clear ocean waters and the fresh waters of its caves and underground rivers. It is a unique place, also rich in history. Walking through its narrow streets, you can find the statue of Gonzalo Guerrero, an important symbol of Mayan and Spanish cultural history. (Unfortunately, that same statue was vandalized and taken down in the events leading up to the blockade, but will be repaired.) It has a prime location in the Riviera Maya, near Playa del Carmen and Tulum, close to other places of attraction such as Xel-Ha, Coba and Sian Ka'an in Punta Allen. It is an ideal destination for water sports such as snorkeling and kayaking. But above all things by the many entrances to subterranean caves, with depths up to 150 meters, make Akumal undoubtedly a chosen site for divers from around the world, in addition to the reefs with a variety of species of coral and fish but also colorful flora.
 
http://media.wix.com/ugd/...fea9d45435332a05f3.pdf
 
 
 
 
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Re: RE: Privatizing Akumal Bay? 2016/02/27 10:48:28 (permalink)
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this article & others posted elsewhere have us concerned what we will encounter on our first trip back in 3 years.  We have been coming down for over 15 years & have the seen first hand the increase in snorkel tour traffic & the craziness of people who think they can chase & touch the turtles.  Perhaps charging a fee to tour operators is a good idea.  It might not cut down traffic much but could provide funds for ecosystem preservation.

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