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2011/12/02 06:58:07 (permalink)
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Bahia Privilege Club scam

All travel agents warn you about time share sharks preying on you at the airport.
They fail to warn you about this happening at your resort.
Your resort should provide save and worry free atmosphere but……
 
The Bahia staff was so nice, professional and friendly. That is why we were not concerned when we were approached by a man carrying a sign that read, PRIVILEGE CLUB.  We were at the buffet and we considered it as a continuation of hospitality and graciously accepted an offer of showing us the whole Bahia.  Eventually, we accepted the offer of becoming privilege members. It sounded like some privileges for frequent visitors. The next day he took us to the Coba resort to the Privilege Club room.
We filled out some forms and were asked for credit card. Fortunately, I did not have it with me.  Therefore, we were assigned a host and we had breakfast together. This seemed non-threatening because he was simply sharing with us the history of Bahia. Slowly, it became clearer to us that this was a sales pitch, rather than a simple club membership. Then, he took us on a tour to show us a typical room that seemed well kept, painted and with the flat screen TV.  Then, we learned how neglected the average rooms are.
When we got back to the PRIVILAGED CLUB, it was full of tables with guests like us and hosts (salesman). We were then offered a time share, which he called a membership. As we had no interest in buying a time share, I refused but promised to look at the numbers later on. At this time, he insisted on calling his “boss”.  His “boss” came and told me that if we sign it today we will get twice as much for 40% less. This was enough proof to us to call it scam, but I asked for all details in writing to analyze it at home.
So they told us that it is their company’s secret and we were shown the door.
I am not sure if this is illegal, but for sure it is very unethical.
 
We want to know your thoughts on this, as it made two of your guests very uncomfortable.
 
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RE: Bahia Privilege Club scam 2011/12/02 07:02:41 (permalink)
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The Time Share hustle is a long standing practice at many AI's.  Usually though they try to bribe you with tequila, free car rentals, tours and stuff to listen to their shpiel.........
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RE: Bahia Privilege Club scam 2011/12/02 07:56:33 (permalink)
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We were in Dreams Tulum, GS and Barcelo and did not experience anything like that.
 
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RE: Bahia Privilege Club scam 2011/12/02 08:37:06 (permalink)
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jb -

I had to "rescue" my husband from one of those smooth talkers by the "quiet pool" on the Tulum side - I could tell where their conversation was going.

Like I said - hope the Barcelo was a better vacation for you.
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RE: Bahia Privilege Club scam 2011/12/02 09:03:21 (permalink)
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Kwing  thanks for attention.
Barcelo Tropical does not offer the same luxury as Dreams Tulum or GS but is a decent resort.
The only problem were noises on sat nights or rather sunday mornings.
In the low seson they have conferences for locals (hairdresser symposium, matrix specialists etc). They were even worst then young, drunk  canadians. 
Overall we had great time!
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RE: Bahia Privilege Club scam 2011/12/02 09:29:28 (permalink)
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Always beware of someone offering something for nothing. It doesnt mean that you arent intelligent enough to know the difference is just means that these people are very savvy. We engaged in conversation with one of these people even though we knew who they were. It so ridiculous. But we told them right out we were not interested in the Tulum section of the Bahia and that this was our 8th visit to the Coba. After a brief visit, probably 15 min, he saw he was getting nowhere and we left. I love engaging these people just to frustrate the hell out of them but I dont make a habit of it. I even told them that in a few short years we would retire to Mexico but it would be to Playa and not to the Bahia Principe lol. I saw  very unfortunate people who agreed to talk with these people every morning at breakfast having to listen to the speal they gave them.  Believe it or not it was worse at the Tulum section.

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RE: Bahia Privilege Club scam 2011/12/02 10:15:43 (permalink)
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I love engaging these people just to frustrate the hell out of them but I dont make a habit of it.


that made me chuckle.............yep lynne we're up front with them too - got burned once in PDC into taking a "tour of a new resort" our first or 2nd time in PDC - but we got $100 and some booze out of it and a ride back to our hotel. It's unfortunate that this "time share" burns some people.
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RE: Bahia Privilege Club scam 2011/12/02 10:49:08 (permalink)
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I recommend sending a letter to the resort stating your complaints with these time share style sales folk intruding on your enjoyment of the resort. The more complaints the more likely this form of business will stop. I find the west coast of Mexico even worse for timeshare salesmen that get in your face no mater where you are .The fact they are on resort really bugs me and I have let management know this at a few places we have stayed at.
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RE: Bahia Privilege Club scam 2011/12/02 10:52:03 (permalink)
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My wife and I have been to the Bahia in 2008,Barcelo in 2010 and Palladium in 2011 and never had any issues with time share people.Maybe it"s changed at the Bahia.My sister in law is leaving for the Bahia in a week.I"ll give her a heads up.
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RE: Bahia Privilege Club scam 2011/12/02 10:57:08 (permalink)
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They claim that the Privilege Club started last year.
For all going to Bahia :  read my other post!
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RE: Bahia Privilege Club scam 2011/12/02 12:08:24 (permalink)
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I got sting a year and a half ago. First, I know, what a sucker, I got stung at the airport in Cozumel. I KNOW BETTER!!!!!! Then, I got stung on resort, at the desk that said concierge or something like that. Wasted a half hour there, went to dinner. At dinner, I decided to return his gifts and cancel the appointment. He insisted these were gifts, please keep them. We left with me saying please leave us alone and let us enjoy our vacation. Afterwards, I would completely ignore that desk, while they tried to rope me back in. They would call with real pleasant hellos, etc.... It is so enjoyble at these resorts that I can overlook this type of treatment, but these resorts can ditch these guys and make their guests so much happier.
post edited by uphillklimber - 2011/12/03 06:46:19

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RE: Bahia Privilege Club scam 2011/12/02 12:30:36 (permalink)
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This is why I won't rent with Cancun/Caribbean again. The lady there simply would not stop with the time share pitch offer for some place in PDC after being told not interested at least 4 times. 'It's a free lunch & 1000 pesos, are you crazy not to want a free lunch in a 5 star PDC hotel?' FInally I just told her to quit it or I walk my reservation for 4 cars over to Easyway.

 
 



 
 
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RE: Bahia Privilege Club scam 2011/12/02 12:47:46 (permalink)
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21 years ago - our honeymoon - we fell for the "free breakfast".  Never again.  The Pacific side is much worse and they are on the streets all over and very aggressive.[:'(]
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RE: Bahia Privilege Club scam 2011/12/02 21:48:40 (permalink)
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I'm sorry you experienced that. That would be a bummer on vacation. When we were there a few weeks ago, they weren't very aggressive at all. We had a flyer on our door and were asked in the lobby once- that's it. My brother & sister-in-law did go because they wanted all of the things they were giving away. They got all of their stuff and the deal kept getting better and better but they didn't bite. They actually were glad they went LOL. Not my cup of tea though.
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RE: Bahia Privilege Club scam 2011/12/03 07:45:59 (permalink)
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Tanda50,
I am even more interested in your comment on my other post (see Bahia is hot)
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RE: Bahia Privilege Club scam 2011/12/03 22:20:56 (permalink)
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This is a long standing practice at the resorts in Cancun, has probably been successful enough that they are branching out to the other resort areas in Mexico. I actually hate it, but, what can you do. As long as a buck is to be made, someone will put their hand out some way.

These are the same companies that you will see as you exit Customs and Immigration in the Cancun airport. Has anyone else noticed the recording that plays over and over while you wait at immigration and customs saying that these guys are the only transport companies that the Cancun airport can guarantee will be safe and secure. They fall short of saying they are the only transport companies that "are" safe, just the only ones they can guarantee. It's clearly a scam the tourism board has latched onto.

We had a terrible experience with them in Cancun in 2005 and learned that the only way to avoid them is to be on the lookout for them. They were everywhere in Cancun, including having a location at the end of the check in desk in the hotel, and they had a name plate on their counter that said Concierge. Not only are the hotels aware of their existence and annoyance, they are fine with it.

Chalk yet another one up for ABR, you won't find the time share sharks there. At least not yet.
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RE: Bahia Privilege Club scam 2011/12/08 07:19:43 (permalink)
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Agreed this is a long standing practice through out the Caribbean; the odd thing is I've been visiting the Bahia at least once a year since 1999 and have never been approached for the sales pitch! Most other AI's - yes - The Palaces, Dreams and Melia but never the Bahia.......perhaps I look too poor or too grouchy!
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RE: Bahia Privilege Club scam 2011/12/08 08:09:04 (permalink)
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Agreed Bahia time share is about the same as other. we have been to about 20 AI and all had the timeshare thing. i found Bahia less pushy than most.
i was offered $200.00 cash at walmarts in PDC to do a time share sales thing.. it's a long standing practice through out the Caribbean. there are everywhere .

ORIGINAL: Laney

Agreed this is a long standing practice through out the Caribbean; the odd thing is I've been visiting the Bahia at least once a year since 1999 and have never been approached for the sales pitch! Most other AI's - yes - The Palaces, Dreams and Melia but never the Bahia.......perhaps I look too poor or too grouchy!

Agreed this is a long standing practice through out the Caribbean; the odd thing is I've been visiting the Bahia at least once a year since 1999 and have never been approached for the sales pitch! Most other AI's - yes - The Palaces, Dreams and Melia but never the Bahia.......perhaps I look too poor or too grouchy!
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RE: Bahia Privilege Club scam 2011/12/08 13:56:17 (permalink)
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Agreed Bahia time share is about the same as other. we have been to about 20 AI and all had the timeshare thing. i found Bahia less pushy than most.
i was offered $200.00 cash at walmarts in PDC to do a time share sales thing.. it's a long standing practice through out the Caribbean. there are everywhere .

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ORIGINAL: Laney

Agreed this is a long standing practice through out the Caribbean; the odd thing is I've been visiting the Bahia at least once a year since 1999 and have never been approached for the sales pitch! Most other AI's - yes - The Palaces, Dreams and Melia but never the Bahia.......perhaps I look too poor or too grouchy!

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Agreed this is a long standing practice through out the Caribbean; the odd thing is I've been visiting the Bahia at least once a year since 1999 and have never been approached for the sales pitch! Most other AI's - yes - The Palaces, Dreams and Melia but never the Bahia.......perhaps I look too poor or too grouchy!
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We've been to around 10 resorts on the Caribbean coast and never been approached by timeshare people at the resort (so far). On the Pacific side it is a much different story and we didn't like it. I'd be pretty disappointed if things went that way in QR.
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RE: Bahia Privilege Club scam 2011/12/08 14:41:34 (permalink)
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We have also never had to deal with this down there, I'm surprised to hear it's so prevalent.

Maybe it's the Don't Screw With Me look I acquire when approached by shady looking people. [:D][:D]





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RE: Bahia Privilege Club scam 2011/12/08 15:38:25 (permalink)
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I base my vacation resort choices on my personal "no time share" rule.  And, I won't go into PDC ever again because you can't walk 15 feet without being yakked at and spoken to rudely if you ignore them.
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RE: Bahia Privilege Club scam 2011/12/08 15:56:29 (permalink)
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just a few that i know of that have timeshare sales.

All Palace resorts
Dreams
All Allegro
Avalon Reef Club Isla Mujeres
All Blue Bay Blue Boy
All Bahia
Club Regina Westin
Club Solymar
Desire Resort and Spa
All Divi Resort
El Dorado Seaside Suites
El Dorado Royale
Fishermen's Village Resort
El Pueblito Beach Hotel
Golden Shores and Crown Paradise Club
Gran Caribe Real Resort and Spa
Hacienda Vista Real
Krystal International Vacation Club Cancun
Mayan Palace
Maya Caribe Resort
Melia Vacation Club at Melia Cancun
All Occidental
Park Royal Cozumel
Riviera Maya
Reef Club Cozumel
Reef Club Playacar
Royal in Playa del Carmen
Royal Sunset Club Cancun
Sole Vacation Club
All Sunscape
All Viva Wyndham
Xpu-Ha Palace



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RE: Bahia Privilege Club scam 2011/12/08 22:10:51 (permalink)
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Just returned this evening from the Bahia Coba. Stayed 13 days. Never was approached! I asked my hub by last night if I looked scary or mean!! I had a guy in town talking to me and I knew why. I told him he could never beat the pricing I get. Told him what I paid and he totally agreed and told me to keep doing what im doing and onto ued on to others! I don't like being tied down to one resort or certain times anyways!

Actually in Akumal this time!! April 7th
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RE: Bahia Privilege Club scam 2011/12/08 22:42:01 (permalink)
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Tanda50,
I am even more interested in your comment on my other post (see Bahia is hot)


I'm sorry, I don't remember and can't find the other post. Refresh my memory.
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RE: Bahia Privilege Club scam 2011/12/09 05:50:59 (permalink)
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Other post "Bahia Akumal is hot"
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