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RIVIERA MAYA AIRPORT.....NOOOOO!!!! - 12/14/2005 3:49:06 PM
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Tortuga Tom
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Here is a rough translation of an article from today'sCancun newspaper:
Carlos Joaquín announces the construction of International Airport of the Riviera Mayan
Beach of the Carmen.- Carlos Joaquín González, municipal president of Solidarity, reported that Vicente Fox, President of the Republic, confirmed yesterday the construction of the International Airport of the Riviera Mayan (AIRM) in a meeting in Cancun with representatives of the official and private sectors.
&Ldquo; this announcement is transcendental for Solidarity as a main tool for the impulse al tourist development of the municipality as well as to consolidate the infrastructure of Quintana Roo, according to our purpose to guarantee the leadership of the Riviera Mayan in Mexico, the Caribbean and the world”.
&Ldquo; the President Fox reported that the tender of the AIRM will leave published at the beginning of January next and we expect that 45 days later conclude to initiate the construction of way to modulate, that is to say for phases, for have the first ready part in some two aged more to delay, although possibly since before can be utilized some of the trails”, Carlos said Joaquín.
Carlos Joaquín mentioned some of the benefits of the start of the work: the investment of the same project, the urbanization and improvement of the zone that brings with himself, the presence of the name of the AIRM in the señalización of the airports of the entire world, and the possibility that some of the two airports more important north, Cancun or Riviera Mayan, remain functioning after the
The Municipal President stood out the significance of the announcement, therefore al to be carried out the project the investments in the Riviera will be consolidated Mayan and improve the possibilities to expand their social benefits.
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RE: RIVIERA MAYA AIRPORT.....NOOOOO!!!! - 12/15/2005 1:37:11 PM
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Steve in Texas
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LovnSoliman - yeah thats kind of how I've been feeling lately myself. There's just TOO much friggen money to be made in the area so mankind is going to rape it for every penny they can get - screw the environment and the deserted beaches etc... they feel those beaches should be jam packed with tourists with money. Thats another part of the reason I'm looking elsewhere to go - because in a fe years the mainland will be completely swamped with huge AI's sucking up all the beach area in the name of the almighty peso..
After the airport opens, but how long do you think it'll be before MTV does "Spring Break Tulum" from the ruins? Man, now I'm making myself sick...
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RE: RIVIERA MAYA AIRPORT.....NOOOOO!!!! - 12/15/2005 2:23:29 PM
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pablovi
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I know it's shame, but you can't worry that much about ecology in a poor country, sometimes there are higher prioirities. Tourism is our 3rd income, the first is oil, and the second taxes. We're going to be out of oil in the near future (about 100 years) So we have to start increasing our other incomes, or this country will be a lot poorer. And if that means developing more tourist areas, so be it, it has been done forever in this and every country on earth!
I know it's a shame some of you might not enjoy it as much, but a lot of people will, that's why they're doing it, forn now if you wan to solutide you'll have to move to Costa Maya, but there are already development plans for that area too!
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RE: RIVIERA MAYA AIRPORT.....NOOOOO!!!! - 12/15/2005 2:45:59 PM
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Steve in TX - Remember the Eagles song "The Last Resort" One of my favorite lines goes something like, 'There is no more new frontier, we have got to make it here' etc etc
Yes its a shame that so much pristine area is destroyed in the name of "progress"
I will get off my soap box now.
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RE: RIVIERA MAYA AIRPORT.....NOOOOO!!!! - 12/15/2005 3:02:02 PM
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Pablovi, I hear you, development is necessary for the economy. But the problem is this growth is not sustainable and eventually the things that draw people to the area will likely be destroyed. Not only will everything on the beach side of 305 be bulldozed (including all of the mangrove which is vital to the health of the reef) but also everything on the other side as well to build housing for the thousands of workers. Where will the money come for schools, hospitals, proper sanitation in the pueblos? Ecologically responsible development has worked in Costa Rica, why not in Quintana Roo?
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RE: RIVIERA MAYA AIRPORT.....NOOOOO!!!! - 12/15/2005 3:03:12 PM
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pablovi
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ORIGINAL: Craig in WI
Pavlovi...unfortunately you are correct. However, if no one maintains the VERY fragile environment, there will be nothing for tourists to come see. The stretch from Playa to Tulum is already in danger from overuse. And I am as much at fault for that as anyone. The development that a new airport would bring will devastate the region. No more reef = no more tourists.
Yeah, I'm sure they will come up with a sustainable development plan. At least I hope so. I don't think the number of tourist will increase that much anyway, I think it has to do with desaturating Cancun's airport, giving the people that travel to the Riviera Maya another option than flying to CUN.
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RE: RIVIERA MAYA AIRPORT.....NOOOOO!!!! - 12/15/2005 3:03:50 PM
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Wow, this sucks. I guess it was inevitable. I remember 10 years ago there were about 2 resorts between Playa and Akumal.
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RE: RIVIERA MAYA AIRPORT.....NOOOOO!!!! - 12/15/2005 3:08:53 PM
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Steve in Texas
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Martini Man - Yeah I'm not exactly sure why they call it "progress" when they take one of God's most perfect creations and builds a Quicky Mart in its place along with what will probably be another Cancun in The Tulum area. I just don't understand it. If they say its in the interests of the people, I'd like to know how other than providing a lot of jobs that pay, what, two bucks a day? Somebody's making all those millions and it sure isn't the people who work and sweat there to live. On the other hand I have NO clue why mankind s SO hellbent on self destruction... building up areas that SHOULD remain natural, creating EVERY drug imagineable to deal with every issue including the side effects of OTHER drugs (I take pain killers for my neck and as a result have to take Nexium - the most expensive stomach med in the world - to combat the stomach disorders the pain killers create) and even doing their BEST to create the MOST natural looking robots imagineable. I just saw a show about that - I think in Japan they're working on robots that look exactly like humans... and WHATS the friggen point? Have they NOT seen Terminator? haha... Yup - mankind is SO hellbent on improving everything that they're actually destroying life as we know it... Well, at least a few multi millionaires will make even more money by building huge new 5 star AI's in Tulum so that Cancun lovers will now have a choice of where to spend theri money... Off MY soapbox now...
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RE: RIVIERA MAYA AIRPORT.....NOOOOO!!!! - 12/15/2005 3:14:40 PM
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pablovi
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They not only create jobs, which is a big thing, they pay taxes and lot's of them, the tourists spend a lot of money here and the poeple that recieve that money pays taxes.
Development and revenue are the basis of capitalism. I don't agree with it, but what should we do, we live in capitalist countries!
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RE: RIVIERA MAYA AIRPORT.....NOOOOO!!!! - 12/15/2005 3:40:17 PM
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Steve in Texas
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I would have to disagree with the post stating there wouldn't be much more traffic to the area - just another option for people flying into Cun... Lets face it.. they're going to build a huge international airport that can receive planes from all over the world.. For one thing, somebodys gonna hafta pay for that airport and that would probably be the HORDES of business men and companies right now fighting over property BY that new airport to build huge new 5 star AI's on. Wherever there's an international airport in a tourist area, its gonna be surrounded by every friggen hotel and resort they can squeeze into the area and will work itself south as far as it can go and north to take up whats left of the undeveloped land that so far doesn't have resorts on it.. It wouldn't make sense to build a huge new international airport just to make it a little easier on tourists staying in the Mayan Riviera and cut their travel time by 20-30 minutes.. It might just be my opinion, but I can almost guarentee that once the location is set, property ALL around that airport will skyrocket in value and still be bought up left and right by every capitalist with money signs in his eyes with the intent of building money making properties o it. So what if they mess up the ecosystem? So what if the reef dies? Most people go their for the beach anyway, not to dive. One thing I can tell you for a fact - greedy businessmen and companies don't give a rat's patoot about the ecosystem or the turtles breeding grounds or anything like that.. Thats why eco friendly organizations need to get to work now and get the word out about what going to happen and get awareness up..
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RE: RIVIERA MAYA AIRPORT.....NOOOOO!!!! - 12/15/2005 4:01:02 PM
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I was under the impression that development has had serious limits placed on it by strict regulations that were set in place to protect the enviornment in the Tulum area, and especially along the coast to Punta Allen (Sian Kaan area).
I agree that an International Airport in the area of the Playa-Cancun corridor will bring developers who will try to squeeze in a resort anywhere there is a greenspace, but, I understand that public officals have been put in place by citizens who are expecting improvements in their standard of living as well. These improvements are likely to come from that developement, as previously stated, via propety taxes, payroll taxes and increased tourism spending.
It will be a hard balancing act to protect the enviornment and serve the needs of the public at the same time. I hope that Mexico can accomplish both.
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RE: RIVIERA MAYA AIRPORT.....NOOOOO!!!! - 12/15/2005 4:13:20 PM
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pablovi
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I was under the impression that development has had serious limits placed on it by strict regulations that were set in place to protect the enviornment in the Tulum area, and especially along the coast to Punta Allen (Sian Kaan area).
I agree that an International Airport in the area of the Playa-Cancun corridor will bring developers who will try to squeeze in a resort anywhere there is a greenspace, but, I understand that public officals have been put in place by citizens who are expecting improvements in their standard of living as well. These improvements are likely to come from that developement, as previously stated, via propety taxes, payroll taxes and increased tourism spending.
It will be a hard balancing act to protect the enviornment and serve the needs of the public at the same time. I hope that Mexico can accomplish both.
You're right, but we need to give the goverment and the envioroment authorities the benefit of the doubth.
But right now it will help this economy.
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RE: RIVIERA MAYA AIRPORT.....NOOOOO!!!! - 12/15/2005 4:17:59 PM
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"They paved it, and put-up a parking lot" to quote and old song!!!
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RE: RIVIERA MAYA AIRPORT.....NOOOOO!!!! - 12/15/2005 7:33:08 PM
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Joe in Maine
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The government's track record on environmental issues is questionable at best, so giving them the benefit of the doubt seems to be kinda questionable, all due respect to Pablovi. But we are outsiders aftr all. It is ultimately up to the folks who live there to mount a grassroots campaign. Time for the Talking Cross to emerge from its chapel?
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RE: RIVIERA MAYA AIRPORT.....NOOOOO!!!! - 12/15/2005 8:45:28 PM
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If you think about it, "we the tourists" are some of the reason for a new airport.........more publicity about the area, more draw, more need for transportation. A little of "I have found my paradise, but you (the new tourist coming in to the new airport in Tulum" can't come. Something to think about.
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RE: RIVIERA MAYA AIRPORT.....NOOOOO!!!! - 12/15/2005 9:05:44 PM
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Dr Cat - I don't think its so much of a "I've found my piece of paradise and you can't come" as it is "We have miles of deserted beach that could be filled with 5 star AI's to bring in even MORE tourists than ever before making us all fistfulls of million dollar bills".. Sure people who found an area they like don't want to lose it, but I don't think its because they don't want anyone else to go there. Plenty of people go to Mexico every year. Astounding numbers of people go to Mexico every year. Part of the lure to the Mayan Riviera is to get away from the concrete jungle of Cancun to a more relaxed, personal area. Now we find out that these relaxed personal areas and miles of sought after deserted beaches are probably going to become another concrete jungle Cancun hotel zone clone (thanks tommagro for that descript) complete with wall to wall people and MTV and all the crap they bring with them.
Sure you can say that the locals need the money - who doesn't? But to destroy one of the few remaining areas of God's masterpiece to build ANOTHER monument to Man's need for greed out of concrete is just wrong. Nobody's saying "no - you can't come to my part of paradise".. they're saying "no, please don't F up whats LEFT of this paradise with overcommercialization and 43 F'ing 18 story resorts." As one poster quoted from a very famous song..."they paved it and put up a parking lot".. and there goes what little is left of God's green Earth... "Start up the bulldozers, boys... and lets go F up the next beach" Eventually there will be NO stretches of beach ANYWHERE that are NOT privately owned and either "off limits" or only accessible by way of.. the almighty dollar.
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RE: RIVIERA MAYA AIRPORT.....NOOOOO!!!! - 12/15/2005 9:10:53 PM
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I'm mildly amused by all this hand-wringing, even though I agree with most of you that having an airport further south will eventually ruin my vacation experience. It's not as if the area has been undiscovered until the last couple of years. The pace of development between Playa and Tulum has been pretty breakneck for some time. And while a new airport will no doubt accelerate the change, it is not going to create development pressure where none existed before.
Before I came back to the area last spring, I had last been to QRoo in 2000, the longest stretch I had been away since I started traveling there in 1979. I had kept up with some of the changes by watching the Web and reading the travel mags, but nothing prepared me for the sheer magnitude of the changes that took place in five short years. The trip down 307, which of course is always fun and exciting (Hey, we're on vacation!) was tempered by a feeling every two minutes or so of, "Whoa, look at the size of that resort!" Knowing full well that every inch of the coast is in fact spoken for, with the possible exception of the youth camp at Chemuyil, I didn't doubt for a minute that by 2015 the whole stretch would resemble, if not Cancun please, at least Playacar. Sad to say, the airport is not going to do anything that wouldn't have happened anyway.
I do think there will be pockets that hold out for quite a while, if only because the large, easily assembled parcels of land will be developed first. I think Akumal (despite the grand master plan), Soliman Bay and Tankah Bay will probably be the last to go, simply because beachfront ownership is minutely split among mostly expat owners who don't have an immediate incentive to sell. (If I were a craven developer, I would pull out all the stops to make every Soliman Bay owner an offer they could not refuse. Not that I want to see it happen, but can you imagine a better site anywhere in the world for a self-contained high-end resort?)
My biggest fear is that Tulum will succumb to development pressures. The land ownership situation on the beach is just sketchy enough to make assembling a series of large hotel-size parcels possible. And that would be the ruination of one of the last best places on Earth.
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