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Crisis Du Jour - 7/11/2012 2:22:14 PM
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minnjim
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So some of you know our son goes to college a few hours from home. We own a house there that he lives in and we rent out rooms to other college kids to make the mortgage payments. It's worked out great, especially when he was going through his cardiac issues.
So now it turns out, one of his roommates has developed a full blown case of paranoid schizophrenia. (He's a CIA operative, the CIA is bugging the house, they've hacked into his bank account, people are following him, etc.) His family situation is not great, but he's getting some support from his brother and mother. So far......he doesn't seem to be a threat to either himself or anyone else. But it sure makes for a stressfull situation for everyone concerned. (And kinda intersting from a landlord's perspective.) Mostly, I'm concerned for everyone's safety, although, like I said, as of now he doesn't seem to be dangerous. He obviously needs to get into some kind of long term treatment program.
Our son talks to his mother quite a bit and we're trying to get him to voluntarily/mutually void the lease and have him move out.
So why am I writing this? I have no idea!! HA!  Just venting, I guess.
< Message edited by minnjim -- 7/11/2012 2:23:14 PM >
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RE: Crisis Du Jour - 7/11/2012 2:45:25 PM
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neilalex
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It would be best for all if he moves out.
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RE: Crisis Du Jour - 7/11/2012 3:04:34 PM
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minnjim
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It would be best for all if he moves out.
That's what the plan is. Kinda sticky from a legal perspective since he really hasn't done anything wrong.
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RE: Crisis Du Jour - 7/12/2012 8:10:44 AM
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minnjim
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any history of drug abuse?
Not that we know of. He's lived there for a year and has been the nicest guy in the world.
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RE: Crisis Du Jour - 7/12/2012 8:20:38 AM
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Bosco
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obviously needs to get into some kind of long term treatment program.
Tough situation. If you just kick him out and he offs himself you are going to feel bad.
Have you talked to his mother?
He definitely needs guidance to seek the help he needs.
I agree with Crunch. I wouldn't want him living there under those conditions. Does not sound safe.
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RE: Crisis Du Jour - 7/12/2012 8:26:41 AM
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minnjim
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Yeah, I agree. We are working on getting him to voluntarily move out.
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RE: Crisis Du Jour - 7/12/2012 9:47:58 AM
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Has he actually been formally diagnosed, or is this just assumption that he has developed paranoid schizophrenia? If he's been diagnosed then his doctor should be working to find the meds and dosages that will keep him stabilized. It does usually take more than one try to get the right mix. A lot of newly diagnosed, if they feel too foggy on their meds, will go off them, but once the doctor's get it right and the person hopefully realizes life is still ok on meds, they can get by pretty well.
How long as he lived there, and was there a friendship with the other roommates prior to this, or was he always just "the guy who lives in that room?"
It's a horrible disease, and even sadder is that it usually strikes at college age, more often in males.
It's a tough thing for families to deal with, especially if their child is away at school and not in their local area or at home. Maybe before you add to this kid's current situation by getting him to leave, you could reach out to his family... you, as the landlord and parent of one of his roommates, not having your son be the one to do it... and see what can be worked out? I'm assuming the parent's write you the check? If it was your kid, wouldn't you be more respective to the request if it came with the intention of actually having some interest in the boy's well being and not just wanting him out to go be someone else's problem? His parent's and family will spend many years dealing with situations where they are advocating for this kid and dealing with people who don't understand his condition or jump to conclusions.
This is a mental illness. I doubt laws anywhere will allow you to write in a "contract" demanding that a tenant with a mental illness promises to remain medicated and on their best behavior in order to live at your property. That might fly if you're running a supervised group home, but not as a private landlord.
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RE: Crisis Du Jour - 7/12/2012 10:36:26 AM
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minnjim
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Reef-
There has definitely been some comeraderie with him amongst the roomies over the last year.
His family life is not that great. His dad basically said 'do whatever you need to do.' He's getting support from his brother and mother, but the problem is he goes to school in one city and they are 200 miles away.
Part of the reason that we would prefer he move out is, I think he is using the house as a place that he can hide from what he's dealing with. I think he needs to be in a more supervised situation until he/they can get his condition under control.
Yeah, I don't think adding those kind of caveats to a lease would fly.
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RE: Crisis Du Jour - 7/12/2012 11:11:00 AM
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There has definitely been some comeraderie with him amongst the roomies over the last year.
His family life is not that great. His dad basically said 'do whatever you need to do.' He's getting support from his brother and mother, but the problem is he goes to school in one city and they are 200 miles away.
Part of the reason that we would prefer he move out is, I think he is using the house as a place that he can hide from what he's dealing with. I think he needs to be in a more supervised situation until he/they can get his condition under control.
Yeah, I don't think adding those kind of caveats to a lease would fly.
Since they have been friends, maybe a couple of the roomies could visit the campus health center, talk to someone, and get some information to provide this young man with, or gather together some of the many resources that you can find online that are specifically written for newly diagnosed paranoid schizophrenics... if he has been officially diagnosed. If he hasn't been, they reading some of the material could help with getting him to the doctor to start the process. A lot of times these people don't fully realize what's happening, but reading someone else's story that they can relate to does help.
This form of schizophrenia is one of the ones that if properly treated, people are able to lead decent lives. Untreated, he could end up on the street being taken advantage of.
Support from 200 miles away won't do too much initially. Can't the brother and/or mother get to where he is for even a couple weeks so they can more actively start the process of treatment (and actual diagnosis if that hasn't happened yet)?
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RE: Crisis Du Jour - 7/12/2012 1:31:27 PM
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minnjim
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I used to deal with newly diagnosed schizophrenics at a hospital I worked at. All previously seemingly health and happy young men for the most part. It really is a tragic disease.
However, it seemed to me that most needed a inpatient hospitaliazation to start and adjust the meds and give them coping skills so they would have a chance for a decent future.
Seems like the family are all ignoring his needs. Someone should be there with him getting this process going.
I feel really badly for him. At least it is nice that your son and the other guys and you care. However, I don't think that will be enough.
It's my understanding he was in the hospital for 5 or 6 days. Our son is coming home this weekend. We'll discuss and probably call the guy's mother.
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RE: Crisis Du Jour - 7/12/2012 4:40:26 PM
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He needs constant support and supervision. Even if he gets the correct meds,
a lot of times the "ps's" think he/she is better and doesn't need the meds anymore. It
can be a vicious circle.
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RE: Crisis Du Jour - 7/13/2012 9:33:33 AM
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sherrys07
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Tough situation, lots of famililies deal with mental illness. This diagnosis is definitely a psychiatric issue and no advise on this travel forum would be worth much, but good luck!
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RE: Crisis Du Jour - 7/18/2012 8:17:21 AM
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minnjim
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Good news. The young man is in a long term treatment program and has decided to move out.
Good luck, Joey! I wish you and your family the best.
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