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RE: Turtle Season 2012 Is Beginning - 6/29/2012 6:43:20 AM   
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ooooooh so excited, might have to sign up for 2 walks! What fantastic news with so many adults making it back :)

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RE: Turtle Season 2012 Is Beginning - 6/29/2012 6:45:35 AM   
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It is looking really good on Cozumel also.  Go Tortugas!

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RE: Turtle Season 2012 Is Beginning - 6/29/2012 8:40:47 AM   
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This is so exciting to hear! This will be our first year to go on a turtle walk I am so excited!


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ORIGINAL: Tortuga Tom

I heard from Mariano today. For those who don't know, he is the Marine Turtle Protection Coordinator at CEA and runs the actual hands-on program for nests on the beaches.

He told me there are so many nests that the nesting mommas are actually having to search a bit to find a suitable place to nest. That is AWESOME!!!! It sounds like another record year in the making.




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RE: Turtle Season 2012 Is Beginning - 6/29/2012 2:48:15 PM   
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This is really fantastic news!!!!

We will be arriving the end of August, staying on HMB. This is our first trip that isn't in February/March timeframe. How long does the turtle nesting season last? Would love, love, love to see it!

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RE: Turtle Season 2012 Is Beginning - 6/29/2012 3:05:53 PM   
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We've been there in both end of August and beginning of September, once nearer the end of September, still plenty of nests hatching out, but, August is a much better time than September in terms of numbers. You should have a good chance of either seeing a hatching or at least helping with a release with CEA. Seeing a mama laying is more difficult at any time as it usually occurs late at night, and you have to be in the right place at the right time.

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RE: Turtle Season 2012 Is Beginning - 6/29/2012 4:27:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: J and K in AK

This is really fantastic news!!!!

We will be arriving the end of August, staying on HMB. This is our first trip that isn't in February/March timeframe. How long does the turtle nesting season last? Would love, love, love to see it!


The end of August is prime time, the chances of seeing hatchlings will be excellent. As Teri said, seeing a nesting is a bit more difficult and requires some effort, but they will still be nesting in earnest and you could see that as well. I've been fortunate enough to see both in one night a few times and it's something you never forget....true sensory overload!


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RE: Turtle Season 2012 Is Beginning - 7/1/2012 2:17:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Tortuga Tom

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ORIGINAL: J and K in AK

This is really fantastic news!!!!

We will be arriving the end of August, staying on HMB. This is our first trip that isn't in February/March timeframe. How long does the turtle nesting season last? Would love, love, love to see it!


The end of August is prime time, the chances of seeing hatchlings will be excellent. As Teri said, seeing a nesting is a bit more difficult and requires some effort, but they will still be nesting in earnest and you could see that as well. I've been fortunate enough to see both in one night a few times and it's something you never forget....true sensory overload!



I'm really hoping we get a chance to actually witness a laying. An actual hatching would be amazing too, we always seem to just miss them. We'll be doing a turtle walk this year and hope to be lucky enough to see one or both. Normally we just help with the releases, and have helped a few times when CEA has found a nest that has opened but there are still a lot of hatchlings inside. I was so surprised how heavy the eggs themselves are. Isabel was helping Mariano one evening emptying nests of unhatched eggs and some hatched eggs. She was counting them, and then putting them in a walmart type plastic bag to take them back to CEA's office. Tim offered to carry it for her, and as we were walking with her he had me hold it. She must have pretty strong arms, probably all that diving and working with CEA.

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RE: Turtle Season 2012 Is Beginning - 7/1/2012 7:33:15 PM   
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Teri- I hope you get to see both. The first time you see those tiny little heads poking thru the sand.....well.....you have to see it for yourself.
A couple of years ago I was on night patrol with CEA and it was an especially active night, very stressful and very tiring. We had to split up and leave 2 volunteers to dig while Mariano and I went to deal with more nests. As we were leaving one of the volunteers got down to dig. You have to understand this guy was a native NYC resident going to law school, the type you would think of as hardened. As we started to head out he began giggling. I mean giggling like a school girl. We had to go back to see what was going on. Here there was one tiny little turtle head poking thru the sand looking at us all as if to say " What do you want?" . We all started giggling right along with him. They have that effect on you.

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RE: Turtle Season 2012 Is Beginning - 7/1/2012 7:36:12 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Tortuga Tom

I heard from Mariano today. For those who don't know, he is the Marine Turtle Protection Coordinator at CEA and runs the actual hands-on program for nests on the beaches.

He told me there are so many nests that the nesting mommas are actually having to search a bit to find a suitable place to nest. That is AWESOME!!!! It sounds like another record year in the making.



The excessive amount of nests has led to this message being posted on the CEA Facebook page today:


IMPORTANT NOTE!!!

This turtle nesting season has been really strong, having over 140 nests so far. Because of this, there have been a lot of what we call 'FLYING EGGS', which is when new nesting turtles dig into older nests because of the lack of space there are on the beaches now. Our job is to protect the nests and the eggs. When we have flying eggs, we need to move the turtles, only after they've finished nesting, so they don't dig out the nests while covering their own.

Please, don't get confused, our volunteers are trained by our Sea Turtle Program coordinator to do this carefully and only when there's a turtle digging into another nest. We are not treating the turtles without care nor are we hurrying them to get back into the water. We move them ONLY to protect other nests.

If you have any questions, comments or suggestions about how we do our job or why we do certain things, don't hesitate to ask us. But please, don't confuse our efforts to protect the eggs with irresponsibility.

Thank you for your time!

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RE: Turtle Season 2012 Is Beginning - 7/2/2012 12:19:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Tortuga Tom

Teri- I hope you get to see both. The first time you see those tiny little heads poking thru the sand.....well.....you have to see it for yourself.
A couple of years ago I was on night patrol with CEA and it was an especially active night, very stressful and very tiring. We had to split up and leave 2 volunteers to dig while Mariano and I went to deal with more nests. As we were leaving one of the volunteers got down to dig. You have to understand this guy was a native NYC resident going to law school, the type you would think of as hardened. As we started to head out he began giggling. I mean giggling like a school girl. We had to go back to see what was going on. Here there was one tiny little turtle head poking thru the sand looking at us all as if to say " What do you want?" . We all started giggling right along with him. They have that effect on you.


Now I REALLY want to see a hatching..... Such a great story. Thanks Tom

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RE: Turtle Season 2012 Is Beginning - 7/2/2012 12:24:07 AM   
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We arrive on Saturday, how far in advance do you need to sign up for the walks?

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RE: Turtle Season 2012 Is Beginning - 7/2/2012 3:31:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: tworth
We arrive on Saturday, how far in advance do you need to sign up for the walks?

You should come by the CEA office on the Monday after you arrive (office is closed on Sat. & Sun.) to reserve a night that's available. I hope it works out and you see exciting things!
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RE: Turtle Season 2012 Is Beginning - 7/2/2012 3:54:57 PM   
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The excessive amount of nests has led to this message being posted on the CEA Facebook page today:


IMPORTANT NOTE!!!

This turtle nesting season has been really strong, having over 140 nests so far. Because of this, there have been a lot of what we call 'FLYING EGGS', which is when new nesting turtles dig into older nests because of the lack of space there are on the beaches now. Our job is to protect the nests and the eggs. When we have flying eggs, we need to move the turtles, only after they've finished nesting, so they don't dig out the nests while covering their own.

Please, don't get confused, our volunteers are trained by our Sea Turtle Program coordinator to do this carefully and only when there's a turtle digging into another nest. We are not treating the turtles without care nor are we hurrying them to get back into the water. We move them ONLY to protect other nests.

If you have any questions, comments or suggestions about how we do our job or why we do certain things, don't hesitate to ask us. But please, don't confuse our efforts to protect the eggs with irresponsibility.


Wow this is really intersting.  I was wondering about this very issue since we were just at ABR for 12 nights and there were new nests there everynight and some of them pretty close together. 

We happened upon nesting turtles 4 times without even trying, just walking back to our room, and once while eating dinner.  First night we watched a mama turtle actually dropping her eggs.  CEA was on the scene and protecting the turtle and nest while letting people come close one at a time to witness it.  Another night a turtle was nesting in front of building 6 and actually moved one of the loungers to get the spot she wanted.  One of the security guards from ABR called CEA and then carefully helped remove the chair which was falling into the nest she was digging.  CEA must have been very busy because it took quite a while for one of their volunteers to come down from Jade Bay.  Two security guards and 4 of us guests kept watch until they came.  Another night we were eating dinner at a front table in the restaurant at ABR watching a very dramatic lightning and thunder storm and a turtle crawled out of the sea right in front of our table.  CEA arrived quickly on that one and the turtle completed the nest despite the light and inordinate number of humans around.  Both CEA and the ABR security guards were working hard to manage the crowd that gathered.   All the nesting really was amazing to see.  Happy to hear the numbers are as good as they are. 
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RE: Turtle Season 2012 Is Beginning - 7/2/2012 5:38:23 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Chopperita

quote:

The excessive amount of nests has led to this message being posted on the CEA Facebook page today:


IMPORTANT NOTE!!!

This turtle nesting season has been really strong, having over 140 nests so far. Because of this, there have been a lot of what we call 'FLYING EGGS', which is when new nesting turtles dig into older nests because of the lack of space there are on the beaches now. Our job is to protect the nests and the eggs. When we have flying eggs, we need to move the turtles, only after they've finished nesting, so they don't dig out the nests while covering their own.

Please, don't get confused, our volunteers are trained by our Sea Turtle Program coordinator to do this carefully and only when there's a turtle digging into another nest. We are not treating the turtles without care nor are we hurrying them to get back into the water. We move them ONLY to protect other nests.

If you have any questions, comments or suggestions about how we do our job or why we do certain things, don't hesitate to ask us. But please, don't confuse our efforts to protect the eggs with irresponsibility.


Wow this is really intersting.  I was wondering about this very issue since we were just at ABR for 12 nights and there were new nests there everynight and some of them pretty close together. 

We happened upon nesting turtles 4 times without even trying, just walking back to our room, and once while eating dinner.  First night we watched a mama turtle actually dropping her eggs.  CEA was on the scene and protecting the turtle and nest while letting people come close one at a time to witness it.  Another night a turtle was nesting in front of building 6 and actually moved one of the loungers to get the spot she wanted.  One of the security guards from ABR called CEA and then carefully helped remove the chair which was falling into the nest she was digging.  CEA must have been very busy because it took quite a while for one of their volunteers to come down from Jade Bay.  Two security guards and 4 of us guests kept watch until they came.  Another night we were eating dinner at a front table in the restaurant at ABR watching a very dramatic lightning and thunder storm and a turtle crawled out of the sea right in front of our table.  CEA arrived quickly on that one and the turtle completed the nest despite the light and inordinate number of humans around.  Both CEA and the ABR security guards were working hard to manage the crowd that gathered.   All the nesting really was amazing to see.  Happy to hear the numbers are as good as they are. 


What fantastic timing for you! I know people who would give their right arm to witness what you did.
Good job protecting mama and the nest until the pros arrived! With that many people around she must have been very determined to lay that night.


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RE: Turtle Season 2012 Is Beginning - 7/2/2012 7:21:12 PM   
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We just got back from Las Villas Akumal and the beach is lousy with turtle nests. One of the volunteers indicated this year has been a banner year for the nesting up more thaan 25% over last year. We saw a loggerhead and two green turtles nest during our stay. It was amazing and memorable. We were hopeful we would see something, but never expected to see three turtles nest. The loggerhead is a serious turtle and handles her business quickly. I was amazed at how deep the nests were.

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RE: Turtle Season 2012 Is Beginning - 7/2/2012 8:56:07 PM   
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I am beside myself reading all of these incredible reports.

I CAN NOT WAIT TO GET THERE AND ON THOSE BEACHES AGAIN! MARIANO, GET MY TASK LIST READY!!!


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RE: Turtle Season 2012 Is Beginning - 7/3/2012 6:25:01 AM   
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Hi
We are planning on going to Akumal in either late November or early December. What are the odds of seeing turtles at this time? Thanks for any info.
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RE: Turtle Season 2012 Is Beginning - 7/3/2012 6:45:52 AM   
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Hi
We are planning on going to Akumal in either late November or early December. What are the odds of seeing turtles at this time? Thanks for any info.


Louk, 

We have seen babies hatch twice right before Thanksgiving.

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RE: Turtle Season 2012 Is Beginning - 7/3/2012 10:51:48 PM   
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Oh man, I can't wait to get there.  Sounds like we will be in baby turtle heaven.  woot woot!!!

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RE: Turtle Season 2012 Is Beginning - 7/4/2012 7:20:40 AM   
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Can't wait to see some more tortugas !! Headed down on Friday for two weeks.

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RE: Turtle Season 2012 Is Beginning - 7/4/2012 7:29:32 AM   
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Hey Tom. How Do you tell the difference between a loggerhead nest and a green turtle nest? Sounds like the beginning of a bad joke!!


The tracks are different for a loggerhead and a green.. greens move with both flippers at same time, loggerheads alternate.

--II-- green ....__II-- loggerhead
--II-- ............. __II--
--II-- ............. __II--
--II-- ............. __II--


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RE: Turtle Season 2012 Is Beginning - 7/4/2012 7:55:40 AM   
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Also, for the loggerhead, the flat path in the middle of the flipper marks which is made by the turtle's body will zig-zag. The green's body slide path will be straighter and will often show a tail poke-and-drag mark down the center.
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RE: Turtle Season 2012 Is Beginning - 7/4/2012 12:36:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: dabears

Can't wait to see some more tortugas !! Headed down on Friday for two weeks.




Very cool pic.

Good descriptions of the turtle trails, that should help folks to identify what they're seeing.

Have a great trip! Say hi to the tortugas for me.


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RE: Turtle Season 2012 Is Beginning - 7/10/2012 6:09:47 PM   
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I will be able to say hi to them myself once again, see that ticker? 

Greatly looking forward to more active nights on the beach with the turtles and sharing my experiences with you all. Hopefully there will be a lot to report, it's sounding like there certainly should be.


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RE: Turtle Season 2012 Is Beginning - 7/12/2012 6:24:37 PM   
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A little turtle video from last night -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9H4hYdZl2A

PLEASE - if you are interested in seeing turtles, stick with the CEA. The turtles will thank you for it.
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